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110 - Retreat, Retrieve, and Return

In this episode, Mark and Cameron talk about the pros and cons of the way contemporary authors have explored “options” for this task from the ancient practice of monasticism.

If we’re going to restore what is lost in our world, first we may need to withdraw from the skirmish and go in search of it ourselves. We retreat in order to accomplish the retrieval, always with a mind to return to the world for the restorative work. In this episode, Mark and Cameron talk about the pros and cons of the way contemporary authors have explored “options” for this task from the ancient practice of monasticism.

Mentioned in this episode:

A Wild Christianity,” by Paul Kingsnorth (First Things)

How the Irish Saved Civilization, by Thomas Cahill

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109 - Learning to Read

As people of the book, Christians have a special relationship to the art of reading. In this episode, Cameron quizzes Mark with a lightning round of questions about whether audiobooks count as reading, if it’s okay not to finish books you’ve started, and what to use when you need a makeshift bookmark. There are some more serious questions in the mix, too, concerning the purpose and benefits of reading.

As people of the book, Christians have a special relationship to the art of reading. In this episode, Cameron quizzes Mark with a lightning round of questions about whether audiobooks count as reading, if it’s okay not to finish books you’ve started, and what to use when you need a makeshift bookmark. There are some more serious questions in the mix, too, concerning the purpose and benefits of reading.

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108 - Longing for Transcendence

“Young people are longing for transcendence.” Are they, though? And what exactly does transcendence mean? In this episode, Mark and Cameron take a shot at naming the longing that drives so many people to search for deeper, more historically grounded experiences of the Christian faith. A lot of us feel that something’s missing, and that we’re looking for it in the wrong places. This conversation directs that longing toward its proper end.

“Young people are longing for transcendence.” Are they, though? And what exactly does transcendence mean? In this episode, Mark and Cameron take a shot at naming the longing that drives so many people to search for deeper, more historically grounded experiences of the Christian faith. A lot of us feel that something’s missing, and that we’re looking for it in the wrong places. This conversation directs that longing toward its proper end.

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107 - Talking About Our Vision

In this special episode, the first of Mark’s five VISION TALKS are collected in a single recording. These live recordings focus on the building blocks of Grace’s vision: the centrality of worship, church-planting, our unique DNA (longing for more grace, more depth, and more community), why our culture has to be as gracious as our theology, and why historic Christianity is our goal.

In this special episode, the first of Mark’s five VISION TALKS are collected in a single recording. These live recordings focus on the building blocks of Grace’s vision: the centrality of worship, church-planting, our unique DNA (longing for more grace, more depth, and more community), why our culture has to be as gracious as our theology, and why historic Christianity is our goal.

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106 - The Cost of Grace

Inspired by Cameron’s re-reading of Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s classic The Cost of Discipleship, this episode revisits the concept of “cheap grace.” If we’re saved by grace apart from works, it’s tempting to think that what we do is, at best, of secondary importance — and, at worst, of no importance at all. But the call to salvation is also a call to sacrifice, which means that while it may be free, grace is anything but cheap.

Inspired by Cameron’s re-reading of Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s classic The Cost of Discipleship, this episode revisits the concept of “cheap grace.” If we’re saved by grace apart from works, it’s tempting to think that what we do is, at best, of secondary importance — and, at worst, of no importance at all. But the call to salvation is also a call to sacrifice, which means that while it may be free, grace is anything but cheap.

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105 - The Death (and Resurrection) of God

The crime of Christianity, in Nietzsche’s view, was its renunciation of life. He declared God dead and sought to sweep away the continuing influence of Christian morality. But as Cameron argues in a recent essay published on his site Conversant, the resurrection offers a powerful response to this criticism. As Easter approaches, Mark asks Cameron to share how the theological and philosophical implications of the resurrection come to our aid in answering Nietzsche, and what we still might have to learn from his critique.

The crime of Christianity, in Nietzsche’s view, was its renunciation of life. He declared God dead and sought to sweep away the continuing influence of Christian morality. But as Cameron argues in a recent essay published on his site Conversant, the resurrection offers a powerful response to this criticism. As Easter approaches, Mark asks Cameron to share how the theological and philosophical implications of the resurrection come to our aid in answering Nietzsche, and what we still might have to learn from his critique.

Mentioned in this episode:

Why Nietzsche Loathed Christianity, by Cameron D. Brooks (via Conversant)

Culture and the Death of God, by Terry Eagleton

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104 - Secrets of Sermon Prep

If you’ve ever wondered how pastors get from a text in Scripture to a finished sermon, this one’s for you. Part spiritual discipline and part stewardship, the process of understanding and then proclaiming the message of Scripture is much more involved than an introductory class on homiletics might suggest. Special guest and “friend of the pod” Luke Le Duc joins Mark in the studio to explore the secrets of sermon prep.

If you’ve ever wondered how pastors get from a text in Scripture to a finished sermon, this one’s for you. Part spiritual discipline and part stewardship, the process of understanding and then proclaiming the message of Scripture is much more involved than an introductory class on homiletics might suggest. Special guest and “friend of the pod” Luke Le Duc joins Mark in the studio to explore the secrets of sermon prep.

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103 - Biblical Critical Theory

They haven’t read much farther than the introduction, but that doesn’t stop Mark and Cameron from discussing the new book Biblical Critical Theory, by Christopher Watkin. In this episode, they walk through some of the introductory concepts that make this such a promising text, and discuss how it might redeem critical theory and refresh worldview studies all at once.

They haven’t read much farther than the introduction, but that doesn’t stop Mark and Cameron from discussing the new book Biblical Critical Theory, by Christopher Watkin. In this episode, they walk through some of the introductory concepts that make this such a promising text, and discuss how it might redeem critical theory and refresh worldview studies all at once.

Mentioned in this episode:

Biblical Critical Theory, by Christopher Watkin

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102 - Theologizing and the Novel

Cameron has read Eugene Vodolazkin’s novel Laurus twice already, while Mark hasn’t managed to get past the first fifty pages. In this episode, they compare notes on the book, sharing what resonated (and what didn’t). They also discuss the relationship of a writer’s theology to his fiction, and talk about how reading someone else’s attempt to theologize in prose can shape one’s own efforts.

Cameron has read Eugene Vodolazkin’s novel Laurus twice already, while Mark hasn’t managed to get past the first fifty pages. In this episode, they compare notes on the book, sharing what resonated (and what didn’t). They also discuss the relationship of a writer’s theology to his fiction, and talk about how reading someone else’s attempt to theologize in prose can shape one’s own efforts.

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101 - Living in the Past

History is all too often one of those subjects we either ignore, or twist to support our culture war objectives. In this episode, Mark and Cameron ask whether there is a third option. How can the study of history help in our formation as thinkers — and yes, as believers. Is the past a trap we can never escape, or does it point a way forward if only we pay better attention?

History is all too often one of those subjects we either ignore, or twist to support our culture war objectives. In this episode, Mark and Cameron ask whether there is a third option. How can the study of history help in our formation as thinkers — and yes, as believers. Is the past a trap we can never escape, or does it point a way forward if only we pay better attention?

Mentioned in this episode:

Mindset, a new podcast from Worldview Academy

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100 - Vision and Space

As “good things run wild” at Grace, we’re faced with some welcome challenges, including the need to be good stewards of growth. In this episode, Cameron quizzes Mark about the vision of Grace and its practical application when it comes to finding solutions to our need for more space to worship. While we cannot always realize our vision immediately, it helps to have the end in mind as we figure out strategies to get there.

As “good things run wild” at Grace, we’re faced with some welcome challenges, including the need to be good stewards of growth. In this episode, Cameron quizzes Mark about the vision of Grace and its practical application when it comes to finding solutions to our need for more space to worship. While we cannot always realize our vision immediately, it helps to have the end in mind as we figure out strategies to get there.

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99 - Bright Sadness: Five Lessons for Lent

Due to blizzard conditions, Grace has been forced to cancel our Ash Wednesday service. But we’ve learned that when life gives you lemons, you can squeeze out a podcast. In this episode, Mark is joined by Rev. Luke Le Duc for a discussion of Grace’s Ash Wednesday liturgy. They also talk about the different between Advent longing and the “bright sadness” of the season of Lent. We hope this conversation will make for a helpful start to the season.

Due to blizzard conditions, Grace has been forced to cancel our Ash Wednesday service. But we’ve learned that when life gives you lemons, you can squeeze out a podcast. In this episode, Mark is joined by Rev. Luke Le Duc for a discussion of Grace’s Ash Wednesday liturgy. They also talk about the different between Advent longing and the “bright sadness” of the season of Lent. We hope this conversation will make for a helpful start to the season.

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98 - Hearing the Music

While Cameron vacations on the beaches of Florida, Mark soldiers on! This time, he’s joined by Delta David Gier, music director of what Alex Ross in The New Yorker called “one of America’s boldest orchestras,” the South Dakota Symphony Orchestra. Mark asks David about faith and music, and they talk about the work of Crescendo North America, a professional organization for Christian classical and jazz musicians.

While Cameron vacations on the beaches of Florida, Mark soldiers on! This time, he’s joined by Delta David Gier, music director of what Alex Ross in The New Yorker called “one of America’s boldest orchestras,” the South Dakota Symphony Orchestra. Mark asks David about faith and music, and they talk about the work of Crescendo North America, a professional organization for Christian classical and jazz musicians.

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97 - The Truth About Fiction

Picking up from last week’s discussion of parables, this episode takes on the question of narrative, storytelling, and fiction. Does the fact that Jesus teaches in parables tell us anything about the value of literature? Should we avoid reading made-up stories in favor of factual books, or are there truths that can only be grasped by way of fiction? Mark and Cameron tackle these questions and more.

Picking up from last week’s discussion of parables, this episode takes on the question of narrative, storytelling, and fiction. Does the fact that Jesus teaches in parables tell us anything about the value of literature? Should we avoid reading made-up stories in favor of factual books, or are there truths that can only be grasped by way of fiction? Mark and Cameron tackle these questions and more.

Mentioned in this episode:

Cameron refers to Eugene Vodolaskin’s 2012 novel Laurus and Zane Grey’s classic western Riders of the Purple Sage (1912). He also mentions Wendell Berry. Mark cites Flannery O’Connor, Graham Greene, and Walker Percy. He also throws in James Lee Burke and Georges Simenon.

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96 - The Parables Aren't What You Think

The parables of Jesus are often cited in contemporary discussions about storytelling, narrative theology, and even learning styles. But when the disciples ask Jesus in Matthew 13 why he teaches this way, his explanation takes us in a very different direction. In this episode, Mark and Cameron lay a foundation for interpreting the parables of Matthew 13 in light of the rationale Jesus gives.

The parables of Jesus are often cited in contemporary discussions about storytelling, narrative theology, and even learning styles. But when the disciples ask Jesus in Matthew 13 why he teaches this way, his explanation takes us in a very different direction. In this episode, Mark and Cameron lay a foundation for interpreting the parables of Matthew 13 in light of the rationale Jesus gives.

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95 - Knowing Too Much?

Throughout the history of the Church, there has been a tension between the life of the mind and the life of action, between people focused on knowing the truth deeply and people focused on practicing it. In this episode, Cameron and Mark explore the limits of knowledge and ask whether knowing too much can become an obstacle to faith.

Throughout the history of the Church, there has been a tension between the life of the mind and the life of action, between people focused on knowing the truth deeply and people focused on practicing it. In this episode, Cameron and Mark explore the limits of knowledge and ask whether knowing too much can become an obstacle to faith.

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94 - Literal Hell

In this episode, Mark and Cameron take on a difficult topic: literal hell. The Bible says less about heaven and hell than you might expect — and a lot of what it teaches comes to us in the form of analogy, where things that are too wonderful (or too terrible) for the human mind are revealed through comparison to what we do understand. But if we’re going to pass down the faith once for all delivered to the saints, the Bible’s teaching about final judgment is something we need to address.

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93 - The Problem with 'Mere' Christianity

“In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; and in all things, charity.” In this episode, Mark and Cameron interrogate this hierarchy of doctrine and ask whether applying the ‘non-essential’ label to anything in Scripture is really such a good idea.

“In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; and in all things, charity.” This famous saying has been attributed to various Church figures, including Augustine of Hippo — who did not say it. Whatever the source, it’s become a popular sentiment in the modern church. There’s just one problem, though: the Bible doesn’t flag its essential and non-essential teachings for us. That’s up to the interpreter … and one person’s essential may be another’s non-essential, and vice versa. In this episode, Mark and Cameron interrogate this hierarchy of doctrine and ask whether applying the ‘non-essential’ label to anything in Scripture is really such a good idea.

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92 - In Search of Lost Time

Feel like you don’t have enough time for the things that really matter? You’re not alone. Most of us have a sense that time is passing too quickly, that we’re missing out — a feeling made worse by images all around us of other people having a meaningful time. In this episode, Cameron and Mark discuss the tension between two Greek concepts — kairos and chronos — to find out how we can recover some of our lost time.

Feel like you don’t have enough time for the things that really matter? You’re not alone. Most of us have a sense that time is passing too quickly, that we’re missing out — a feeling made worse by images all around us of other people having a meaningful time. In this episode, Cameron and Mark discuss the tension between two Greek concepts — kairos and chronos — to find out how we can recover some of our lost time.

Mentioned in this episode:

Living by Kairos Time in a Chronos World by Josh Pauling

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91 - Optimistic Exiles

Scripture compares believers in Christ to strangers and exiles, people whose home is not in this world or this time. What does it mean to be an exile, though? Apathy, alienation, and powerlessness are all associated with this idea … but what about hope? In this episode, Mark and Cameron think through the implications of the exile metaphor for Christian life.

Scripture compares believers in Christ to strangers and exiles, people whose home is not in this world or this time. What does it mean to be an exile, though? Apathy, alienation, and powerlessness are all associated with this idea … but what about hope? In this episode, Mark and Cameron think through the implications of the exile metaphor for Christian life.

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